World of Logs ToGC 10 11/2/09

World of Logs ToGC 10 11/2/09
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"If you know your class cold, I mean really know it, then there is no reason you can't be topping meters. But some (key word) of that responsibility lies with you and not with us juicing the numbers in your favor."
-Ghostcrawler

"Raiding with competent and prepared people is a lot of fun. Raiding with noobs isn't."
-Aubrielle
I did not see this on the schedule, you big jerks.


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"I tell you, those voices soared; higher and farther than anybody in a gray place dares to dream. It was like some beautiful bird flapped into our drab little cage and made those walls dissolve away. And for the briefest of moments, every last man at Shawshank felt free.

It pissed the warden off something awful."
Here comes one of those awesome posts where I point out a death that bothers the crap out of me, and I explain why. People will probably get defensive and/or mad, but it's obstacles like these that we need to overcome to complete higher level content.

These are hard modes, ladies and gentlemen, you have to put your excuses on the shelf and your feelings in your pocket if you want to get through them.

[23:21:41.051] Larka Improved Leader of the Pack Larka +0 (O: 1787)
[23:21:42.385] Swarm Scarab hits Larka 559 (R: 72)
[23:21:42.691] Tokendarkguy Earth Shield Larka +559 (O: 2424)
[23:21:44.067] Swarm Scarab Acid-Drenched Mandibles Larka 3312 (R: 960)
[23:21:46.453] Swarm Scarab hits Larka 491 (R: 142)
[23:21:47.308] Swarm Scarab Acid-Drenched Mandibles Larka 6210 (R: 800)
[23:21:47.308] Tokendarkguy Earth Shield Larka +2983
[23:21:48.883] Swarm Scarab hits Larka 552 (R: 71)
[23:21:50.174] Swarm Scarab Acid-Drenched Mandibles Larka 8831 (R: 2560)
[23:21:53.060] Swarm Scarab Acid-Drenched Mandibles Larka 3311 (R: 8960)
[23:21:56.228] Swarm Scarab Acid-Drenched Mandibles Larka 4415 (R: 7680)
[23:21:59.162] Swarm Scarab Acid-Drenched Mandibles Larka 4416 (R: 7680)
[23:22:02.068] Swarm Scarab Acid-Drenched Mandibles Larka 3311 (R: 8960)
[23:22:04.000] Tokendarkguy Lesser Healing Wave Larka +4393
[23:22:05.191] Swarm Scarab Acid-Drenched Mandibles Larka 5520 (R: 6400)
[23:22:07.841] Tokendarkguy Earthliving Larka +670
[23:22:08.133] Swarm Scarab Acid-Drenched Mandibles Larka 5520 (R: 6400)
[23:22:10.995] Tokendarkguy Earthliving Larka +670
[23:22:11.188] Swarm Scarab Acid-Drenched Mandibles Larka 4416 (R: 7680)
[23:22:13.630] Tokendarkguy Riptide Larka +3882
[23:22:13.873] Tokendarkguy Earthliving Larka +711
[23:22:14.156] Swarm Scarab Acid-Drenched Mandibles Larka 5520 (R: 6400)
[23:22:14.156] Anub'arak hits Larka 2640 (O: 15214)
[23:22:14.825] Larka dies

in this 33 sec duration
55,832 damage to Larka
13,868 healing to Larka (All from Token)

I understand that Larka shouldn't have gotten hit from the scarabs. However, getting hit by one is going to happen sometimes.

I was asked last night if I would get mad at healers for a dps dying from standing in fire. The answer is no I would not. The burst from standing in such hazards is usually enough to cause unhealable damage. However, a 6k max tick debuff is perfectly healable on a 43k hp druid.

I was given a volley of excuses of why Larka died here. I understand Token died, which would be understandable except he was the only one that healed him after. I do not want a resto druid giving movement as a reason that he could not heal someone.




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"If you know your class cold, I mean really know it, then there is no reason you can't be topping meters. But some (key word) of that responsibility lies with you and not with us juicing the numbers in your favor."
-Ghostcrawler

"Raiding with competent and prepared people is a lot of fun. Raiding with noobs isn't."
-Aubrielle
Thre were things more things that could have been done to save larka. but yeah keck needed to get a heal off, it would have needed to be several heals, since larka was hit for 15k overkill, heck he was hit for 23k damage at the exact same time when he was at 8k HP. But there is little excuse there, I know he was running all, and it is a tough fight, but I dont think larka was out of range, but who knows.


One thing larka could have done was use some CDs to help. SI would give him ~12k more HP, putting him at 20k HP, barksin would reduce the damage from 23k to ~18k and popping a health stone could have bought a little more time. I know that is a lot of CDs, but there was time to think about it, and anub was incoming.

one thing I could have done was intervene larka and take 18k hit for him, since I was at full health I would have survived. I just don't think of intervening a tank very often.

I also could have been pro and taunted anub for a few seconds buying larka some time, while anub came to me. (this is probably the best thing I could have done)
Chances are I would have died on the next tick anyways. Blowing CDs would have been an option, but then I wouldn't have them for Phase 3 when i really need them. The combo of SI and glyphed frenzied regen helps tremendously for P3, which we already had been struggling on to begin with. Barkskin and maybe healthstone would have been my only real viable options if I didn't want to get owned in P3.

Speaking of which, we really need to watch how much we heal everyone in phase 3. 20% or lower would be ideal for DPS. With the combination of losing 10% of my health every tick and being hit by Anub, I still almost need a dedicated healer. There's A LOT of damage coming in that phase.

I'm not worried about it too much. It was a bad attempt, that's all.
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I did not see this on the schedule, you big jerks.



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